The Dreaded Dripless Shaft Seal - Part II

 


    Not only will this post be about replacing the Dripless Shaft Seal, it will be about the Cutless Bearing as well.  A Cutless Bearing works by drawing in a flow of water which lubricates the shaft (lucky for us since the bottom of the boat has an endless supply of lubrication).

    Since the dripless seal was 20 years old, & I could find no record of a bearing replacement, I summarized that cutless was original as well.  The previous owner said the cutless was "maintenance free", if you have owned an inboard shaft boat you know that is not the case. A cutless can have a long life (like this one did) or a short one. If a boat is run in a lot of sandy silted water, the water drawn thru the cutless contains that sand & it becomes is an abrasive that wears away at both the bearing and the shaft.  Also a mis-aligned shaft can wear out a bearing, this is generally noticed when one side of the inner core is a bit thinner than the other. My cutless was OK but definitely worn & time for replacement.


     The first order of business (besides hauling & blocking) was separating the shaft from the coupling.  I started 2 days prior by soaking the 2 bolts with PB Blaster (a penetrating spray oil).  The coupling is a "split" type so after the bolts were removed, some wedges were driven in to open up the coupling some.  With a little persuading the shaft came out.  I wasn't watching what my mechanic friend JD was doing to get it out but one method is to loosen the bolts that hold the coupling to the transmission then insert a socket that is slightly smaller than the shaft, then tighten the bolts in sequence to "push" the shaft out.  I heard some banging so i don't think that is what he did.  I wouldn't recommend beating on a shaft but I believe that is what he did (a few tell tale ding marks left behind).

    The next step was to remove the rudder so we could slip the shaft out.  The stainless steel keel guard needed to be removed.  Not sure why, or maybe it is a usual thing but the nuts holding the keel guard on were buried in Silicone. We joked that they were trying to streamline the old girl and pick up some speed or perhaps it kept lines & debris from snagging?  A doughnut of Silicone was around the bottom of the rudder connection as well.  At least I think it was silicone, I don't think 5200 could be built up like that without sagging. 


    We dug the Silicone out from the 4 corners of the fiberglass keel & removed the 4 bolts. A few taps with a mallet & the stainless keel guard dropped to the ground.
   

    

    JD moved up to the Lazarette & removed steering arm, packing & the keyway for the rudder & it slipped out.  After that it was just a matter of pulling the shaft out, we left the prop still attached to make it easier to pull out & handle the shaft.  Interesting that there was no zinc on the shaft. The information I had with the boat says to use "1 1/2" x 2 1/2" egg shaped and cut it down to approximately 1 1/2".  I purchased that size zinc but I still think 1 1/2" may be too big so I purchased a Collar zinc that was 1 1/4".  

    With everything out, I removed the old dripless seal, made easy by the access (See the post "The Dreaded Dripless Shaft Seal - Part 1").  The water inlet in the old seal was almost completely closed off with corrosion & debris, there had to be virtually no water going to the shaft, which would explain why there was silt on the shaft section in the shaft log between the dripless & the cutless. That would indicate water was not traveling down the shaft & out the cutless.


    On to the Cutless!  There should have been set screws tightened against the outer (usually Brass) hub of the cutless, but we could not find any.  JD had a slide puller with a weighted end but that sucker wouldn't budge.  We felt we had no choice but to carefully cut through the bearing then see if it would come out.  Carefully with an air powered sawzall & metal blade he worked through the outer brass....It still wouldn't budge.

    JD took an air hammer & was able to move it forward, so we knew it would move, then I went into the Lazarette & with a large 1 7/8" socket & long extension slammed it repeatedly to the rear until it popped out.  Guess what, there were drag marks from 2 set screws!  They were fiberglassed in!  I located them from the inside & carefully drilled out the fiberglass on top of them so we could back them out & use them to re-set the cutless.  One was on top at 12 O'Clock & the other at 3 O'Clock.


    I measured the cutless outside diameter & it was 2". Not knowing the diameter since the boat was in the water, over a week ago I ordered 2 from West Marine (Port Supply), 1 @ 2" & 1 @ 2 3/8".  I was still waiting for it to arrive, so instead I ordered 1 from the prop company. I had to pay a little more than with my Port Supply account, but he assured me it would be there by 3 pm on Thursday.  It was.  West Marine will refund me.

   In the photo above, you can see the location of the 2 stainless steel sets screws that were buried in the fiberglass.                         

     I polished the shaft & rudder shaft.  While waiting on the Cutless Bearing to be delivered I took the prop to Homosassa Prop (a local shop) for service. Check out my blog entry Prop Walk about the prop reconditioning & replacement.

    Also since the shaft was out I replaced the rear bilge pump.  It would be nearly impossible to get to once the shaft goes back in.  The forward bilge pump took a crap a few weeks ago so I figured this one could do the same & it is by far the most important one of the 2 located in the boat.

    After placing the new cutless bearing in the freezer over night to make it easier to install, I headed to Twin Rivers Marina with it on ice.  I had the shaft, keel guard, rudder & zincs, ready for the re-installation.  The cutless slid in with very little tapping.  I let it warm up then drilled some "dimples" in each of the set screw holes to give them something to bite to.  When I re-installed the screws I was careful to get them tight but not sure what they were threaded into didn't want them to blow out. I used a little 5200 on these as well and later in the day filled the holes with fiberglass filler, sanded & bottom painted it.

    The shaft slid in easily with a little resistance but I had to attach the prop to give myself something to grip on to to get it to the coupling.  When I got it close to the coupling I placed the dripless & spare seal & carrier on.  The new dripless seems well made but the old Tides “Strong Seal” seemed to me to be much heavier duty in both the seal, cutless length & even a heavier hose. I believe that is why it lasted as long as it did. Time will tell as to the longevity of the new seal. I ordered the shaft seal from Citimarine in Miami, great folks & quick shipping.

    This was as far as I could go without help.  Once JD got there I worked the prop and he reassembled the coupling.  It took some good whacking but it went together nice & snug.  With the shaft to the coupling I could complete the dripless.  The shaft had some minor scoring from the old seal but the new seal was 2" shorter and landed on a smooth section of the shaft.

    We completed the rudder & keelguard assembly re-packing the rudder since we had it disassembled. Once everything was together I filled the area as before with a glob of silicone & when that set up painted it.  The last item was the collar zinc for the shaft.


    Overall the project went very well.  I certainly couldn't have done it single handed & having JD there with his specialized tools and knowledge was a huge help.  After splashing I checked everything a couple times on the ride home & found a dry bilge. 
    The only adjustment I needed to make was to retighten the rudder packing nuts a couple of times which is normal.
    Without a doubt the difference in handling and operation was noticeable, no vibration and when out of gear the stiff outgoing current was slowly turning the shaft...Success!


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  1. very informative. thanks for taking the time to post. ron

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